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Graillik Tur
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: An undrastic realization

I'm gonna start rambling here in about 6 words so I apologize before hand.
Also I am not looking for sympathy or responses although they are welcome.

There comes a time in every man's life...you ever heard that...when he is assaulted on all fronts by a feeling of complete and total truth and yet can not express it till later years in which he looks back upon it and simply goes...oh.

It is my fundamental belief that every person is put in place to face certain trials and encounter certain individuals for the betterment of the planet and all on it. Every human is but what one would consider an insignificant spec in an otherwise un-ending expanse of conscious thought. He distinguishes himself by his victories and failures. He defines his existence through those that would remember him after he has passed from the 'lifetime' that he has influenced individuals.

Many believe that this simple micro-cosm is the total of the sphere of influence but today I realized that is not so. When you think of the vast changes in the ebb and flow of humanity from second to second and realize that life is flowing every second around you, through you, you have to stop and be awe struck with the power that the individual has. With a simple gesture or word a person can unravel the very existence that he is surrounded by. He can unmake his own world with a whisper, destroy his life in one small breathe. But that which is the dicotomy of our existence is that if one can unmake...he can create.

With a simple smile or word he can bring into existence a completely new and focused stream of life, of thought. He can will things into existence that were not there.

At it's very basic elements all things are energy either in motion or waiting to be put into motion, and if the ebb and flow of all life is in constant flux by the incalculable influences of each individual it would appear that the only outcome would be chaos. But that is never the case. Anyone who takes the time to step back and look with intent can see that life flows in a constant recurring theme that can not be slowed or quickened. It all must be the way it is and the way it will be. No matter the influences from the incalculabe each man (or woman) holds in himself the divine right to make himself and his future.

He will continue to seek that which is destined to him with all his might and will never be deterred from it. No matter the risks or the pains which cause the weak to suffer and the strong to grit and bare, it will be.

So here is to those that understand that the inevitable is not the determened and that all that is in flux is truly static in nature. May the path we choose be the path that is set before us. And let the path that chooses us be the path that is destined.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject:

hmmm....


What is 42?

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Well ok, while I believe that we shape our own destinies, that destiny does start on a flexible path that we travel. While I can pretty much guarantee my destiny doesn't involve me becoming a time traveller, I could by all means go punch my neighbor in the nose. An extreme example, but you see what I'm saying. Anyways, word.

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Graillik Tur
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:01 am    Post subject:

Ah...but if you were a teacher. You could re-teach history in any manner you wished thereby influencing the opinions of several future persons in all kinds of manners effecting not only the future, but also the past. Thereby, you have traveled back in time and reshaped history.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject:

That is partially true I think, but I also think that it is only true if the student is cut off from all other forms of media.

You can find anything on the internet. History included. So all it would take is the student to find out that one of the things s/he was taught was incorrect. Most people I know, after finding out that one thing they were taught was incorrect would go to confirm the other things they had "learned."

Thus reversing the affects of said "time travel."

GREAT analogy Grallik. I like it!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject:

Ah...but with such an over flooding of information...which is correct. There is a certain set of people that believe the world is flat. This is not a joke, they actually believe the world is flat. You'll have to forgive me, I can't find their website right now.

But that brings me to the information vs. experiance. Information alone sometimes is enough to make people believe anything...look at the media. A spokesman for almost anything can in some way talk you into believing something. Doesn't make it true.

Back to the flat world thoughts. In olden times...way old...there were people that believed the world was flat. They lived in the center of civilization. They had no reason not to believe this since nothing proved otherwise. Yet those that lived on the coast and had sailors that frequently sailed beyond the horizon knew the world was round as the masts of the ships would still be seen long after the hull of the vessel fell below the horizon.

What I'm saying is information is not enough. Information along with experiance is the only way to unlearn something you have been taught to be true by others.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject:

Graillik Tur wrote:
What I'm saying is information is not enough. Information along with experiance is the only way to unlearn something you have been taught to be true by others.


You'll get no disagreement from me on that.
But, for some, information is enough to spark the want for said experience. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:00 am    Post subject:

I found this while I was looking up 'flat worlders'...those people that think the world is flat.

I'm gonna put this up here...please do not reply to this as I know where it is gonna go but I find it very, very interesting.

and as such I put in the little "the view expressed here do not in anyway voice the opinions of this poster"

http://www.newnation.org/Millard/Millard-Anti-Racists.html

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject:

Graillik Tur wrote:
Ah...but if you were a teacher. You could re-teach history in any manner you wished thereby influencing the opinions of several future persons in all kinds of manners effecting not only the future, but also the past. Thereby, you have traveled back in time and reshaped history.


Very well put, sir and I believe that Daniel Quinn also had a great way of "re-teaching" Read Ishmael by him it speaks of the outward appearance of about what I believe you are speaking.


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