Firearms

Shino · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:46 am Post subject:

Wow... This is a good conversation.

You all make good valid points.

I'm really not sure where I stand on this.

I will say this...

In GA, there is a city (Kennesaw I think) where there is a local ordanance that REQUIRES that all households own a gun.

Wouldn't you know it, it has the lowest crime rate in the state.

Hell, would YOU break into a house if you knew that it was a law that there be a gun inside. I sure as hell wouldn't. Of course, I wouldn't break into a house anyway... but you get my drift.

Ultrawolf · Mr. Roarke Gender: Joined: 04 Jul 2003

How do y'all feel about Gun Licensing?
Yes, more restrictions on Firearms but hear me out.
I had a thought, aside from a clean record, in order to own a gun you might have to go to a training program/class much like the way you can take Driver's Ed before you can drive only it's a requirement. You have to take a class specifically for that class of firearm, including tests, etc. If the teacher determines you are unfit to possess a firearm, you're dropped.
I'm not sure what it would accomplish, but it's an idea.

Another idea is registering bullets.
Bullets could be IDed and everytime you purchase bullets the serial tag of the bullets are scanned into your Gun License so they can be backtracked to you. Now as said before, there -is- an underground market and no doubt, IDless bullets will be sold along with illegal firearms. Sooner or later however the IDless bullet supply should run dry right? Although I'm sure someone will think of making underground bullets. But it's more an idea to deterr and scare people away from doing something stupid.

I'm not up to date on the latest in safety locks, but do they have thumb scanners for guns now? So that only the person registered to that thumb lock can fire the gun? If not, maybe that's something that ought to be looked into. I don't think more or less guns on the street will solve anything, if anything I think the issue ought to be tackled from an unorthadox perspective.

Faye · Luna Sierra Age: 42 Gender: Joined: 28 Apr 2004

This is where you are wrong Reaper. Gun isnt doing any of the killing. It still takes a person, a very disturbed person, but a person none the less, to load the gun, chamber the bullet, aim and pull the trigger. That person is doing the killing not the gun. Saying the "Guns" kill people is just like saying the video games cause all the school shootings. No one wants to blame the person, just the inanimate object in their hand, or sitting in their living room hooked up to their TV. A gun was made to shoot, and it was made to be accurate. But it takes a Human being to use that gun to kill someone else.

As far as making it easier to kill someone.... yeah, I've agreed with that. However, it wouldnt be terribly more difficult for me to stab, beat, or choke someone to death. Think about it, the PO community aside, how many people do you know that could actually defend themselves against a knife attack or a good beating with a lead pipe. All the guns do is make the attacks less personal.

Andsectoid · Router Monkey of DOOM!!! Gender: Joined: 18 Sep 2003

I will respond later to this thread I would like to mention that Bowling For Columbine is very misleading. For example, some of the guns used in Columbine(I do not have the time at work to see if all the guns) were purchased at a gun show but not by the people to committed the act.

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/shooting/0509dura1.shtml
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/05/08/columbine.guns.01/

Shino · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject:

kei · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:28 pm Post subject:

-Anything can be considered a weapon, your body if trained at any point can become a lethal weapon. You can snap a mans neck just as fast as you can shoot him in the head or slice his thraot. Shino makes a good point, Guns are in many cases the cause of some deaths, but also like faye stated, a gun is just a peice of metal unless used. There for it takes a person to Kill a person. It takes one thought, a nod of a head, and the pull of a trigger to kill someone.

As for The idea Ultra I think that's an awesome idea, but the thing is noone really knows, if this will happen perhaps we sohuld write a potittion.

ScrumYummy · bunnyhunches of scrums Gender: Joined: 29 Jun 2005

Ultrawolf · Mr. Roarke Gender: Joined: 04 Jul 2003

I think a big problem is escalation.
In England (I think) the police officers don't actually carry guns, and they have far less gun problems than we do. I -think- there's an issue of escalation as far as firearms are concerned. Figure that Johnny Hoodlum will want to carry a gun for protection from other people carrying guns. Police Officers have to deal with escalation constantly. Officers carry handguns, Criminals carry Assault Rifles, Officers start wearing Body Armor, Criminals start using armor piercing rounds, and so on. It's a tricky subject to deal with I think because the reaction to policies or decisions might backfire and cause more problems.