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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:28 pm    Post subject:

Daijaga wrote:
Its a little early to be making judgements jsut now, Im actaully excited to see what they are cooking up. They are right about hardware though, just pushing graphics is pretty, but Im not impressed by it, I expect for hardware to improve natrually, Im jaded to it. Im very interetest in what Nintendo thinks will revolutionize the gamign world.


I agree Dai.
I'm all about the system with the best games.
Xbox may have the graphics... but for me, it doesn't have the games.

The same will be true with the next systems.

I'm interested to see what Nintendo will do that will "revolutionize" the market. I'm also very interested in Sony's Cell processor that IBM has such a hand in.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:45 pm    Post subject:

That's the one thing i loved from my switch from Sega Supporter to Nintendo. I could always count on Nintendo to deliver the goods. I love my playstation but honestly the games are crapped out like no tommorrow and you have to sift through to find the real gems. I'll probably buy PS3 but definitly not when it comes out.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:55 pm    Post subject:

Don't get me wrong, I love my Nintendo systems... All of them.

But for me.. Sony just has more of the good stuff.

PS2 > 45 Games
GC < 10 Games

PS > 70 Games
N64 < 10 Games

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:29 pm    Post subject:

http://cube.ign.com/articles/523/523583p1.html

Apparently Xbox 2 is coming out next year.
Thats gonna put a hurting on it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:43 am    Post subject:

haha!

I have to say I think it is amusing that ...

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The "Xbox 2" will use PowerPC based architecture similar to the chipset powering Apple's G5 computers. That being the case, Microsoft's early "Xbox 2" development kits have been little more than modified Apple G5 systems pre-packed with "Xbox 2" emulation software. "I heard [Apple CEO] Steve Jobs found it pretty ironic and funny that Microsoft has been shipping Apple systems to developers,"


Not only that, but...

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Preliminary tech specs for Nintendo's Revolution (of which there are some half a dozen different versions, apparently) illustrate a console that is as powerful as "Xbox 2" in most respects. In fact, IBM and ATI, the two hardware makers responsible for the guts of "Xbox 2," are developing Revolution.


So this is saying that basically, IBM has a hand in all of the next generation systems that are coming out. Good news for IBM.

I have to say though, removing the Hard Drive and making the X2 or whatever the hell they call it, not backward's compatible... big mistake.

They say that they are doing it for purposes of making money, well that's BS. They are doing it because they are pissed that everyone is buying a chip for the thing and modding it so they can flash it with a new BIOS and put Linux on it and emulate everything. As well as rip games on to bigger hard drives. Kinda like what PS2 is going through right now. Only its harder to replace the PS2 one with a bigger one.

Hell I'm planning on modding my XBox soon.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:24 am    Post subject:

You know..I REALLY don't care about the graphics of any game it's all about gameplay and the Cube and X-box don't have it...If a game is released on all systems I'd get the gamecube version hands down. (Hence why I bought THUG on GC)

But in games like DOA2 and DOA3 I loved DOA2 WAY more because I noticed X-Box's response time was MUCH slower.

Even in Tony Hawk 2 for the X-box I played the hell out of it but found myself throwing the controller on the ground or flipping off the game multiple times because when I played the PS2 version I could land a BS 550 throw it into a mcFoot (Whatever they called it) Hit a manula into my next rail and push it into another speacial and then jump into a ramp and to a lip trick. The X-box version I needed an entirely different timing system because the controls couldn't pick up the Down-right+grind scheme fast enough so that I could throw in a rotation or something.

Ask Shino..He's seen me play THUG..I'm a freakin madman...hehehe

I just think that X-box games were made to be pretty and they really weren't made to be played...hehehe

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:19 am    Post subject:

Az, I'm a little confused by your statement.

AzVegeta wrote:
You know..I REALLY don't care about the graphics of any game it's all about gameplay and the Cube and X-box don't have it...If a game is released on all systems I'd get the gamecube version hands down. (Hence why I bought THUG on GC)


If the Box and Cube don't have the game play, why do you buys the game on the Cube and not the PS2.

Did you mean to say the PS2 and the Box don't have the gameplay.

Please clearify. Wiggle

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:58 am    Post subject:

Ultrawolf wrote:
Well actually Playstation isn't dominating. In terms of Sales Gamecube is leading the pack.


That made me laugh.

^w^

Anyway ... the Nintendo Revolution makes me nervous. Basically it sounds like Nintendo is saying we can't compete spec wise, so we're going to add a gimmick to our system to make consumers interested in it.

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That's the one thing i loved from my switch from Sega Supporter to Nintendo. I could always count on Nintendo to deliver the goods. I love my playstation but honestly the games are crapped out like no tommorrow and you have to sift through to find the real gems. I'll probably buy PS3 but definitly not when it comes out.


I really don't understand that. Why don't you buy games you like rather than be a "supporter" of a certain system? Guess I'm weird because I buy all the systems so I can play whatever interests me. I could care less who makes the system.

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They say that they are doing it for purposes of making money, well that's BS. They are doing it because they are pissed that everyone is buying a chip for the thing and modding it so they can flash it with a new BIOS and put Linux on it and emulate everything. As well as rip games on to bigger hard drives. Kinda like what PS2 is going through right now. Only its harder to replace the PS2 one with a bigger one.


That's not true. Microsoft loses about $100 per system and the bulk of that loss is from the harddrive. Why? Because harddrives never get cheaper ... they just get bigger. I mean, try to even find an 8 gig harddrive now. All other components in system get cheaper over time. That's how they are able to lower system cost. Piracy is an issue, but it's a huge problem on the PS2 and they don't have a harddrive (not until recently) and you get get linux kits for the PS2 ...


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You know..I REALLY don't care about the graphics of any game it's all about gameplay and the Cube and X-box don't have it...If a game is released on all systems I'd get the gamecube version hands down. (Hence why I bought THUG on GC)


I'm confused by that comment too. Tony Hawk was designed on the PS2 and ported to the other systems, so If you wanted the game to "feel" right you should buy the PS2 version. In fact, that's exactly why I bought the PS2 version. Besides ... the game is designed for 4 shoulder buttons. Visuals aside, I bought Splinter Cell on the Xbox for that same reason.

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I have to say though, removing the Hard Drive and making the X2 or whatever the hell they call it, not backward's compatible... big mistake.


I agree. I've actually started buying some multi-platform titles on the PS2 because of that. Even though the Xbox version was better.

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Its a little early to be making judgements jsut now, Im actaully excited to see what they are cooking up. They are right about hardware though, just pushing graphics is pretty, but Im not impressed by it, I expect for hardware to improve natrually, Im jaded to it. Im very interetest in what Nintendo thinks will revolutionize the gamign world.


I agree. In spite of my balking at the nintendo's revolution right now, I'm VERY interested to see what they are up to.

I just hope it's not a touch screen.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:11 am    Post subject:

SaitoH wrote:

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That's the one thing i loved from my switch from Sega Supporter to Nintendo. I could always count on Nintendo to deliver the goods. I love my playstation but honestly the games are crapped out like no tommorrow and you have to sift through to find the real gems. I'll probably buy PS3 but definitly not when it comes out.


I really don't understand that. Why don't you buy games you like rather than be a "supporter" of a certain system? Guess I'm weird because I buy all the systems so I can play whatever interests me. I could care less who makes the system.

Im talking about when Sega pulled out of the console race and went third party. I do buy games I like but I find myself buying the majority of these games on the cube.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:16 am    Post subject:

SaitoH wrote:
I really don't understand that. Why don't you buy games you like rather than be a "supporter" of a certain system? Guess I'm weird because I buy all the systems so I can play whatever interests me. I could care less who makes the system.


I agree. I'm the same way. Currently if a game comes out on all 3 systems, I buy it on the PS2, unless there are major differences in the game between systems. Why? Well mainly b/c I think they have the best controller.

But... why... why won't someone make a controller like the playstation with 6 face buttons and 4 shoulder buttons!!!! Sony!!!! Build a controller that repeats 2 of the Shoulder buttons on the Face! Anyway... off topic a bit.

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That's not true. Microsoft loses about $100 per system and the bulk of that loss is from the harddrive. Why? Because harddrives never get cheaper ... they just get bigger. I mean, try to even find an 8 gig harddrive now. All other components in system get cheaper over time. That's how they are able to lower system cost. Piracy is an issue, but it's a huge problem on the PS2 and they don't have a harddrive (not until recently) and you get get linux kits for the PS2 ...


Yes that is true. I should probably clearify my comments. I believe that the money issue is part of the reason, but I don't think it is the MAIN reason. I honestly think MS is taking it as an insult that people are modding their machine just to put Linux on it and that coupled with the fact that piracy of their games is happening is the PRIMARY reason they are doing it. Also, you are correct, the drives do just get bigger, but as they get bigger, the smaller ones get cheaper, just like anything else. You can buy a 40G HD now for like $30. So it's the same for MS as it is for Sony. Sony was losing $100+ per system when it first came out. As was MS.

I could be way off. If MS builds in a spot for a hard drive, then I am. Because if they do, and start selling it seperatly like Sony did, then it will be a repeat of what is happening now for both systems.

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I just hope it's not a touch screen.

^_~


HAHA! Wiggle Thanks for that laugh!

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