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Shino
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 Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject: |
| Ultrawolf wrote: | | For the record, it's not the same kind of motion technology in the eyetoy. Kirby Tilt and Tumble technology, nothing fancier. |
What is not the same motion technology? |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: |
Eyetoy and the new PS3 controller.
They use different types of motion technology ^_^ |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: |
| Ultrawolf wrote: | Eyetoy and the new PS3 controller.
They use different types of motion technology ^_^ |
True... but tell me this...
Knowing what can be done with the eyetoy... do you think there is anything that you can do with the ps3 controller (or the Wii controller) that couldn't also be done with the eyetoy if developed correctly.
Maybe not on as precise of a level, but the eye toy sense 3 axis movement as well.
Just look at the Demo for last years E3 where they were showing the ducks in the tub and he picked up a glass and was picking up water with the glass and moving it around the screen where ever he wanted...
It's different technology, but it's capable of doing the same thing.
It's all motion sensing. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
I remember that. He isn't talking about the gyroscopic tilt sensor. He's refering to a more advanced eye toy. One that can detect way more detailed movement. I'm not a Sony hater by any means. They just acting like a bunch of fools this year. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject: |
I agree they are being foolish in some respects. Price comes to mind first.
The only thing I'm doing really is trying to get the "copy" mentality out of the way, b/c it just erks me.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=65318
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Sony's European boss David Reeves has denied claims that the PS3's tilt sensor controller was one of Ken Kutaragi's back-of-a-beermat-before-the-conference specials - upholding Sony's company line since E3.
"We've had a positive reaction to the controller and obviously some people have asked if it's a last minute thing," he told MCV. "It's not - it's been planned for around two and a half years."
Backing up his point, Reeves noted that you have to keep a device with that many patents involved quiet or someone will try and file a patent to stop it.
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"We have already had some positive feedback on it from publishers," he added - presumably in the time since E3 finished, because virtually everybody who went on record about it at E3 denied any prior knowledge.
Indeed, even Incog, the developer behind WarHawk - the only game at this moment in time that's been demoed using the tilt sensor - confessed that its demo had only taken a fortnight to come up with.
Speaking to us on the evening of Sony's conference, Incog's Dylan Jobe - the chap who demoed the game on-stage - told us, "We've really known officially for about a week and a half, and we did the final tuning just a couple of days ago."
Expect the debate to continue raging then - with the only sure-fire way to lay it to rest surely a strong showing at Leipzig's Game Convention this August or the Tokyo Game Show in September. With a, er, slant toward tilt sensing, naturally.
PlayStation 3 is due to launch worldwide this November - with the European version to cost between EUR 499 for a 20GB model and EUR 599 for the 60GB model. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:23 am Post subject: |
The attempt to justify the price continues...
I mean... I understand why it's this expensive I guess... but it still cannot be marketed as a mainstream gaming console anymore.
| Gamespot wrote: | Sony execs talk PS3, 360, and PC
Kutaragi says next-gen console is like a PC, Stringer jokes he has an "obsession" with Microsoft's next-gen console.
By Tor Thorsen, GameSpot
Posted Jun 7, 2006 6:56 pm PT
Last week, Sony Worldwide Studios president Phil Harrison caused a semi-furor by insinuating the PlayStation 3 could replace the PC in the home. While his comments were mainly directed at the console's entertainment and multimedia capabilities, Sony has long said that the PS3 will have some PC-like functions.
That line was repeated again today by Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi. Speaking with Japanese site PC Impress Watch, the executive defended the PS3's high $499/$599 price points by saying it was not just another console. "Unlike previous PlayStations, it is clearly a computer," he said according to a GameSpot translation.
Kutaragi went on to talk about the need to be able to expand the PS3's technical functions, just like one would with a PC. "Because the PS3 is a computer, we need to do more than just lower the costs, but the console must be able to evolve," he said. He said one of the first tasks at hand would be to introduce a hard-disk drive with higher capacity that the currently scheduled 20GB and 60GB models.
Kutaragi even raised the prospect that, further down the road, Sony might release a PS3 peripheral that could burn Blu-ray discs, the company's high-capacity successor to DVD. "We might want to add a BD drive, a writable drive," he said before quickly reversing himself. "Well, maybe not BD."
Kutaragi also said that, other than the PS3's current read-only Blu-ray drive, the main reason for the console's high cost was the built-in HDD. "For a game console, to add a hard drive puts pressure on cost," he said. "Unlike a semiconductor chip, HDD cannot help lower the cost of the product. ... As a game console, the price has to, over time, be reduced to the 100 dollar range, but that is hard to do with an HDD. ... That [is why] PS3 pricing is not conforming to conventional pricing for a game console."
Meanwhile, Kutaragi's boss, Sony CEO Sir Howard Stringer, had a few choice words to say about one of the PS3's rivals, the Xbox 360. Actually, it was more like one choice word. During an on-stage Q&A at last week's D: All Things Digital conference, which is organized by the Wall Street Journal, he was asked about the mixed critical reception of Sony Pictures' blockbuster film The Da Vinci Code. He misspoke when responding, saying "Xbox 3" instead of "X-Men 3," prompting laughter from the audience. The Welshman then joked, "There's an obsession!"
Stringer recovered quickly, talking up the PS3 in no uncertain terms. "It's got more bells and whistles than a 747," he boasted. "That Cell processor is extraordinarily powerful and you have nine hours of high definition on the Blu-ray disks alone. ... The reason it's expensive [is that] instead of concentrating on just the games player, which would have been done in the past, PlayStation 3 is designed to go somewhere else, where it's the center of the living room." |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:24 am Post subject: |
These guys are retarded. Let me know when they make a stripped down version, you know, one that just plays games. Or maybe I'll wait for one of those crafty Korean guys to do it. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: |
Kotaku put up a piece with their best guess as to why there's this whole "computer" fervor on the PS3: It's a repeat of calling the PS2 a computer to evade import taxes. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
| Nogrick wrote: | | These guys are retarded. Let me know when they make a stripped down version, you know, one that just plays games. Or maybe I'll wait for one of those crafty Korean guys to do it. |
Only problem is that the 2 highest price pieces of the PS3 are going to be required to play games... the BD Drive and the HD.
| Kugyou wrote: | | Kotaku put up a piece with their best guess as to why there's this whole "computer" fervor on the PS3: It's a repeat of calling the PS2 a computer to evade import taxes. |
Honestly... Can't say I blame them.
No different than someone here in America who is "Self-employed" trying to by a car and writing it off as a "business expense."
Not necessarily trying to defend them... just saying that the only thing that Sony is doing that really does anything in the way of upsetting me is the Multi SKU units (mainly just the absense of the MemStick Pro slot on the lower model) and the price. I haven't seen anything else that bothers me yet. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: |
I no longer care about the PS3 price...MGS 4 looks too good to pass for me and Hideo Kojima has promised me 20 years (In video game terms) of Big Boss missions.
I'm going to pre-order MGS4 and when I have it in my grubby hands I will purchase a PS3. ^_^
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