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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: More Sony doublespeak

"Sony's subsidiary So-Net Entertainment announced that the company will begin to offer HD movie downloads for PlayStation 3 in Japan starting on November 11, 2006. Users can access the So-Net's PTV portal via the Cross Media Bar (XMB). HD movie downloads require PS3 firmware 1.10, which can be downloaded free of charge."

Sony's gonna allow downloadable movies and I could swear I heard them decrying this for the XB in some fashion. The curious part is how they have firmware 1.1 and the item isn't even out yet (tho it must be in warehouses). You've already updated your firmware and not one piece of product has been sold? Now that speaks confidence in your products.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject:

If you're gonna push back dates to prefect a system, you might as well update the firmware and not make the customers do it. Sony, you're being dumb.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:26 pm    Post subject:

Targets and Walmarts already have had there PS3s for weeks.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:37 pm    Post subject:

Not all of them, I know the Dept manager in the Electronics dept in my Walmart and they don't have theirs. Walmart, KayBee, and TRU have bigger things in mind than the PS3 tho (Black Friday). The 10-15 PS3's they get amount to nothing next to that.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:56 am    Post subject: Re: More Sony doublespeak

Razer wrote:

Sony's gonna allow downloadable movies and I could swear I heard them decrying this for the XB in some fashion.
Their complaint was that you needed a hard drive to use the service, but if you only bought the core unit, the service was problematic.

Which is true...but it should be noted that the only people I know who bought a core unit bought a hard drive for it (they got the core cause there were no premium units available at the time...thought that is not a problem these days). I mean, I am sure that 90% or more 360 users use a hard drive.

Though I would say that I think the hard drive needs to be bigger for this service. 720p vids are big as it is and I can tell you that 20 gigs on a hard drive for the 360 fills up really fast (especially with all the demos and game trailers you download for it). However, I am sure it will fill up fast on the watered down PS3 as well. Hell, I don't even know if 60 gigs is big enough (considering that if UT2007 gets all the maps and mods that the PC version gets, that could take up a sixth of the drive...just look at my UT2004 folder).

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:20 am    Post subject:

At the momen, Sony can go F*** right off!

Seriously, after all this "March 2007" business, Phil Harrison has now said they cant even guaruntee that.

Rather than making promises Sony, why not on actually making more than 5 consoles to put out on sale! Rather than spitting abuse and insults at your "contenders" crack the whip to make sure you have plenty of systems available for the "worldwide" launch you initially promised.

Yes I'm a bitter englishman, w00 go stereotypes.

Doesn't mean I wont by one if/when they're affordable and you can actually find one.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:44 am    Post subject:

Well there was no doubt they would offer it, but yeah, the reason they said it was a "disservice" was b/c of the hard drive... as Rune said.

And I agree with Rune that most people probably have a hard drive now.

Along with what Rune said... I will also say that even the 60G hard drive is not big enough for HD movie downloads. Think about it, HD-DVDs are 25G. What if you have movies like any of the LOTRs. Bet they take up more than the size of that disk in full hd.

Here's the article...

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Sony: XBL HDTV "a disservice"
SCEA's Dave Karraker says he'd be upset upon hearing about Microsoft's recently revealed multimedia download scheme if he owned an HDD-less Xbox 360.
By Tor Thorsen, GameSpot
Posted Nov 7, 2006 7:11 pm ET

Last night, Microsoft unveiled an ambitious plan to make available a sizeable offering of high-definition movies and television shows on Xbox Live on demand. As is becoming common in the increasingly acrimonious next-gen console war, one side was quick to respond with a scathing criticism of the other's latest move.

"I think they are doing a disservice to their consumer base because they are ignoring all those people who bought the Core system," said Sony Computer Entertainment America PR chief Dave Karraker, referring to the lower-end $299 Xbox 360 system. Said system does not come with the attachable hard drive necessary to store content downloaded off of Xbox Live.

Naturally, SCEA's head spokesman pointed out that both the $499 and $599 models of the PlayStation 3 have hard drives built in. "We would never segregate or shut out any of our consumers from our entertainment experience because they didn't buy the top of the line system," said Karraker. The HDD-equipped premium Xbox 360 costs $399, and the hard drive itself costs $99.99 when bought separately.

The executive also pointed out the fact that 7 gigabytes of the Xbox 360's 20-gigabyte hard drive are taken up by preloaded content, such as the game Hexic, and its operating system. He did not point out the fact that nearly 4GB of said content is deletable. Since only test units have been made available to the press, it is unknown how much of the final retail PS3s' hard drives, which weigh in at 20GB or 60GB, will be taken up by their operating systems and preloaded content.

Microsoft plans on launching its video and movie service on November 22. Sony executives said at its 2006 Gamers Day that the company will eventually tap its vast library of music, video, and movie content to distribute online to PS3s, but they won't say when. "We haven't announced when other entertainment content, beyond games, will be available from the PlayStation Store," said Karraker.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject:

Razer wrote:
Not all of them, I know the Dept manager in the Electronics dept in my Walmart and they don't have theirs. Walmart, KayBee, and TRU have bigger things in mind than the PS3 tho (Black Friday). The 10-15 PS3's they get amount to nothing next to that.


Try 6, and then we're talking.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject:

Well a lot of the stores are getting over 50 Wiis... not EBs, but Best buys and such.

Glad I'm getting one of those instead.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: More Sony doublespeak

Razer wrote:
You've already updated your firmware and not one piece of product has been sold? Now that speaks confidence in your products.


I wouldn't say its confidence but more of a good business practice. Isn't that a given to be prepared for when they DO fully release the systems? I would think that it's actually a good thing that they've gotten it updated before the mass rush of sales hit.

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