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whiteypoker
Junior Otaku
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 Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:40 pm Post subject: |
I see no further need to expound, defend, explain, or synthesize any longer as I know now beyond any shadow of doubt what I once believed. I appreciate all of your hard work on the this topic and I hope you discover, before it becomes crucial, a suitable form of idea exchange that you are comfortable with.  wow... crazy crazy. Perhaps I could talk some of you onto ephilosopher.com. You would have a field day with them.
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Graillik Tur
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:38 am Post subject: |
I believe we have come to an empass if we can not dilute and retain something from this conversation. As it stands now, there is no need to go back through the 5 pages or so of commentary. Chalk it up as a learning experience and let it go.
With that said I am officially putting in a request to be a mod for only a small percentage of boards.
I want the political and religious forums back open. But as Doot as seen it needs to be moderated with great descrepancy. Also, as I have talked to Doot, I feel she is too soft hearted to mod those boards, kinda like momma bear never wants the baby bear to get hurt, she wants everyone to get along.
I'm a Papa Bear. I know that feelings get hurt and people say things they don't wanna hear, but they are for your betterment.
I wish to mod these boards of debate and idea exchange alone. I don't wanna do anything else if I can help it and will happily take on the job. I will do my best to keep things as 'civil' as they possibly can and still allow for the movement that is necessary for the topics.
It's kinda like a child. As it grows it goes through certain pains and phases that can not be stopped, and all that can be done is to ensure that the child doesn't get itself into too much trouble.
Also, there would have to be specific rules of engagement that would have to be followed. I would also right those with moderater approval and overlooking.
If that doesn't work, I'm gonna post some new topics including theories of philosophical exchange and a weekly topical social-philosophical-grammatical-emotional post I like to call "Universal Thought Processing". I garuntee it will be a hoot. I hope to see you there. Class starts tomorrow. Oh...and my time off will be Feb. 14- April 15. Boot Camp and Tech School induction. But after that it will continue Mod willing.
See you tomorrow.
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Doot
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:15 am Post subject: |
I wanted to address this before I shut this thread down as I am certain now that anyone who had or wanted to have anything to say has already said it.
I have watched this thread and found no reason to shut it down other than it has fully run its course of receiving all the opinions on opinions I'm sure Silver could have ever desired and if it has fallen short then I apologize.
If anyone wants to make any closing statements then do so as I'll shut it down this evening.
| Graillik Tur wrote: |
I want the political and religious forums back open. But as Doot as seen it needs to be moderated with great descrepancy. Also, as I have talked to Doot, I feel she is too soft hearted to mod those boards, kinda like momma bear never wants the baby bear to get hurt, she wants everyone to get along. |
To clarify any misgivings on my part, my main goal for this board is to treat others with respect. I am a mama bear to an extent but I will get the wooden spoon out for discipline when it is seen fit. To me, when anyone (and I am not pinpointing any one particular person) makes remarks that are pointed specifically to rile someone else up, remarks that condescend to another person, vicious lashback comments, or these types of heated, veiled debates posturing for position, it definitely goes against my definition of respect. There is no regard for the others honor or esteem. There is no sense of accepting the other party as a worthy conversationalist. When it gains the level of verbal showboating and who can cash in the most 50 cent vocabulary words then I fear that my goals in this community are far from reached.
I am not naive to believe that everyone can get along. I am also not naive to believe that these conversations have not created scars between members. We haven't lasted this long as a community on my being so soft-hearted that I am not fit to mod my own boards. I have also assigned different folks whom I believe can carry out different aspects of my modding approaches because frankly my eyes can't be here 24 hours a day. If these folks falter in any particular way, if they rule unjustly, then I address it with them. There are parts of this boards you'd be suprised to see that even in disagreeing and debating with each other we still maintain that one word I so richly admire: respect. I understand, as you have read in my previous posts, that with debate should come education and with humiliation comes some of the most pungent forms of learning. I also understand that you can lure more flies with honey than with shit. These are all things I have learned throughout my life and I apply here. Over two years strong (even longer if you count the relationships made on previous communities that transferred here) in a community where, when each of these folks come together in a real life setting, permeates the exact feel of respect you'll see on these boards. And I must say, that is quite a sight to behold and one that makes me beam with pride for this community. There's that mama bear in me again.
Now I am definitely not taking what you said as any personal attack as I don't see it as one. It is more of a compliment so please don't think I am holding any animosity towards you or your words. I actually respect everyone who has ventured to add anything to this thread and been able to maintain some level of civility and have enjoyed reading the exchanges made.
| Graillik Tur wrote: | With that said I am officially putting in a request to be a mod for only a small percentage of boards.
I wish to mod these boards of debate and idea exchange alone. I don't wanna do anything else if I can help it and will happily take on the job. I will do my best to keep things as 'civil' as they possibly can and still allow for the movement that is necessary for the topics.
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Please forgive me for condensing these two quotes from your post as I found them to apply to each other. There has been much discussion over creating an area for such topics, however, I feel that anyone who has expressed so strong a response in debate topics would not be suitable as a moderator for such forums as they would not be able to remain objective. You see, anyone who would need to moderate this area would have to answer truthfully that they could remove themselves from the debate and maintain expressing or dealing with them without the distortion of their own personal feelings or interpretations. That is a lot to ask of someone and I feel that would be asking a lot of folks to voluntarily take the wind out of their sails.
This area is still up for discussion and if implemented would come with a small list of rules (ie no punches below the belt kind of stuff) but then after that anything goes. This would strictly be a "by request only" forum where whoever wanted to be in it would have to request access and accept that there WILL undoubtably be difference of opinion and challenges on personal beliefs. The catch is what happens in those forums must stay in those forums and not leak and permeate through the rest of the board. I'll be sure to keep you all updated on that.
I do want to thank each person thus far for publicly stating their opinions, right or wrong. It takes a lot of courage to stand up for your beliefs no matter who challenges them. |
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Silver Adept
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:02 am Post subject: |
Many thanks, Miss Doot, for allowing us to hash things out. The answer that I sought is probably somewhere in this entanglement. I'll have to go back to it when I have more wisdom to see if I can untangle the reasons for why things happened as they did.
I commend anyone willing to take up the job of moderating a board where they would have to be impassive to what rages on, and be able to use a light touch to guide and direct without adding their own material to the mix.
So, I think I may just save the whole topic to my hard drive and puzzle over it in my spare time. My thanks to everyone who contributed - in whatever way. You're helping me obtain greater understanding of more things than just the question that I asked. |
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Graillik Tur
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:09 am Post subject: |
Well Doot is right. In order for me to moderate the boards on such topics, I would have to remove myself from the discussions and be totally objective. I can do that, I would just have to hash my ideas out in another forum, probably ephilosopher.com and politicalcrossfire.com in order to remain sane. And while I would wholey injoy doing the job, Doot has the final say.
Also that idea of a restricted area might also be a wonderful idea. That may be the way to go. Because I don't believe there have been scars put between us. I feel this is how a family grows, and shapes itself. Anyone that has grown up with siblings knows that they fight a lot. And eventually they get to a point, hopefully, where they atleast understand each other and respect the differences. I hope we get to that point.
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shadokastur
Patience to see and strength to do. That is all.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:11 pm Post subject: |
| doot wrote: | | When it gains the level of verbal showboating and who can cash in the most 50 cent vocabulary words then I fear that my goals in this community are far from reached. |
The last thing I have to say is that I am HIGHLY offended by this statement! I paid good money for these vocabulary words and refuse to trade them in for a mere 50 cents a pop! I will not stand for this blatant attempt at highway robbery!! Godd day to you, mam.
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