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RivaOni · Full English! Age: 41 Gender: Joined: 24 Sep 2002

like ive alreadystated, due to my partners stress its easier for us both if she goes to work and i stay at home, plus it gives me more reason to be immature and play with my daughter, i tell you what, hearing a baby laughatsometing you do,its one of thebestfeelings in the world, buttocounter that, one of theworst feelings is them crying and youbeing unsure why everything youdo doesnt seem to work. luckily rachaels not a problem like that, u justgive her some finger food or giveher my old dc keyboard Laughing

Doot · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:48 pm Post subject:

Kensei, I was just asking for some backup to the comment.

It comes down to a woman having to work, as you have said your mother had to. Out of all of the women you cited, how many of them work full time jobs? Just a perspective. If they all do then they are the result of that movement. It could also be attributed to the fact that more women have had to raise children on their own due to divorces or fathers leaving. No one particular party is to blame, it's just some of the harsh reality.

When we start to see the balance of more men taking that responsibility - which admittedly I have seen an upswing of, then it would be easy to add a catch all to say a woman's place should be in the home. As much as we would love for it to be Colorvision 1950's in the homestead it just isn't going to happen. Not that way.

There was a point in time where everyone in the family worked. And a woman was not just the caretaker of the home. I just think it's intimidating for a man in the workplace to have a woman who can do his job - or possibly better - and more often than not they will try to make an excuse to veil their insecurity of why a woman should stay at home.

I'm not discrediting your statement, merely asking for cold hard fact back up. Should be some out there to aide to the validity of the statement.

I'm not going to give you some girl power diatribe because it's hokey for the most part but I do believe woman are as good as men. I also believe with the lack of a constant parental figure at home a child isn't getting the proper raising it should. I don't think saying a woman should stay at home is the only answer. One of the things I disliked the most about growing up is that my father was and still is 100% emotionally unavailable. Didn't help at all to get to know the man and thankfully I have a stepfather who stepped up to the plate. Yes, he worked and my mother was a stay at home mother, so I do understand your point. I also know that my sister doesn't have that luxury as our mother is no longer with us and she is being raised by our dad. He's doing a damn fine job working and nurturing. We can all bring our personal hard knock upbringing into this, all it does is give slight insight to eachother's opinion.

I thank as much God for him and for any man who could be comfortable enough with me being the breadwinner and he stay at home. I'm not trying to feminize the male population it's just the reality that there are women out there who can be far stronger in their work situation than their husbands/partners and a good bit of the male populous seems to have an issue with it.

Graillik Tur · Renaissancetaku Gender: Joined: 09 Jul 2004

Well, I think it comes down to kids here. IF there is not a demand in the home for someone to be there, and the father is present, and makes enough money that the mother doesn't HAVE to work...should she stay home?

I say it this way because it is ridiculous for a man to just 'keep' a woman at home, go to work and expect her to just be there. That's akin to kidnapping.

But look at the Trump. She runs her own clothing line, does shows, helps with funds and charities, and still cuts the Donald's hair and makes him dinner.

Damn that's a goodwan.

KenseiKurisuchan · Alive and kicking Gender: Joined: 17 Mar 2003

Excel Zero · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject:

KenseiKurisuchan · Alive and kicking Gender: Joined: 17 Mar 2003

I don't think that it's possible for a man to have the same bond with a child that a mother does. After all, I don't know any men who carried their kid around for nine months before they came into the world. Well..except Ahnold Schwzergnernatornierior..

Doot · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:51 pm Post subject:

Junior was choice movie watching! Wink

It's true Kensei. And vice versa about a man not having the mother/child bond. It's that whole invisible umbilical cord thing.

Excel Zero · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:14 pm Post subject:

Yeah but see I think it is possible. To me it goes back to the argument of physical vs emotional/mental. If a child dies after it's born don't they feel the same pain? I mean I would imagine they would if they were loving caring parents.

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Excel

KenseiKurisuchan · Alive and kicking Gender: Joined: 17 Mar 2003