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Excel Zero
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:08 am    Post subject:

A shame that this junk happened period. I feel bad for her that they didn't let her go a while ago. It seemed to me that she had nothing but reactions. Often times when subcoritcal reactions take place, they are mistaken for controlled actions. Shame on the media if you ask me though.

Hate to bring it up but I am glad to see this so far taking the proper path and not turning viscious Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject:

I believe the right thing was done. My family and I went through something just like this. My uncle was born mentally handicapped for all his life. Five years ago, it got to be too much and he had to hospitalized. When the choice came down it, we decided to let him go. I believe we made the right decision and believe the right decision was made for Terry Schiavo. May she rest in peace.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject:

Well enough comments have been said. Fact is that the family gave the husband the chance to walk away with his new life, but he didn't, he wanted closure on this part of his life.

I think they right thing was done, but in the wrong way. They should have let her go, but taking out the feeding tube and letting her starve was not the way to do it.

They should have made it quick and painless. Lethal Injection. Some may say that is killing her, which it is, but isn't KNOWINGLY not feeding someone you know needs to be fed through a tube also killing her.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:15 am    Post subject:

The problem is that the medical world makes a very strong distinction between "killing someone" and "letting them die". Because of this, they couldn't give her a lethal injection, poor dear.

The fact is that there was nothing left. After fifteen years, there's little doubt as to whether she was going to come back, and even if she did, could you imagine what she would be like? Or going through? I mean, she's missed fifteen years of her life, of her family's lives. Her muscles would be out of shape. Assuming she could walk anyway, given that she had virtually -no- brain activity left. The only things responding were those of her automatic systems-- breathing, heartbeat. She couldn't even feel -pain- because her nerves weren't responding.

So no, she wasn't really suffering physically. But imagine what her soul must have gone through, unable to rest. She was trapped in that body, and could not retire to whatever afterworld you may or may not believe in. Yes, she was 'alive', but she wasn't living.

Really I feel bad for her. Her family I have little pity for. I think they were holding onto her for their own selfish reasons, and not because they thought it was what she would have wanted. Nearly everyone I have spoken to has said that in her situation, they would rather be let go than trapped there.

And yeah, so the husband wanted to move on. It's been fifteen years! I think that's a sufficient amount of time to get over someone, There are a lot of people who still do not approve of divorce in general, and it seems as though he was one of those. Therefore, the best way to cut ties was to let her go.

Thank heavens they finally did.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject:

Well I can relate to this too. One of my good friends in high school had cancer and was fighting it for years. He had his leg amputated, which was thought to have gotten rid of his cancer, but it spread into his lungs. He decided it was far too painful to live the way he was, so he stopped taking his medication and eventually he passed away. He was hurting so much, it was a little bit of a relief to know he wasn't suffering anymore.

I think the right decision was made. Now she can be free of the pain she has lived through for so long.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject:

Shino wrote:
Well enough comments have been said. Fact is that the family gave the husband the chance to walk away with his new life, but he didn't, he wanted closure on this part of his life.

I think they right thing was done, but in the wrong way. They should have let her go, but taking out the feeding tube and letting her starve was not the way to do it.

They should have made it quick and painless. Lethal Injection. Some may say that is killing her, which it is, but isn't KNOWINGLY not feeding someone you know needs to be fed through a tube also killing her.


Ok. As long as this is going well, here my two cents. I agree with Shino completely adding only this: We euthanize animals to put them out of their misery but we can't do the same or more for a human?! That's F'ed up. HARD. There should be a euthanization allowance in certain cases.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject:

shadokastur wrote:
Shino wrote:
Well enough comments have been said. Fact is that the family gave the husband the chance to walk away with his new life, but he didn't, he wanted closure on this part of his life.

I think they right thing was done, but in the wrong way. They should have let her go, but taking out the feeding tube and letting her starve was not the way to do it.

They should have made it quick and painless. Lethal Injection. Some may say that is killing her, which it is, but isn't KNOWINGLY not feeding someone you know needs to be fed through a tube also killing her.


Ok. As long as this is going well, here my two cents. I agree with Shino completely adding only this: We euthanize animals to put them out of their misery but we can't do the same or more for a human?! That's F'ed up. HARD. Their should be a euthanization allowance in certain cases.


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You'd think that someone could write into a living will that if I'm am incapable of removing myself from a painful life, that I could have someone else do it for me.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject:

Well appearently she didn't have a living will.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:50 am    Post subject:

Reverend wrote:
Demon angel

You'd think that someone could write into a living will that if I'm am incapable of removing myself from a painful life, that I could have someone else do it for me.


don't worry rev, give me the word and i'll come with my smith and wesson, mafia style Wink

hey, here's an idea: lets get kevorkian out of jail. god knows i'd pay the man to kill me if i were suffering and terminally ill.

but in all seriousness, it horrifies me that she was allowed to go on "living" for so long, but what really kills me is the argument that she shouldn't have been allowed to die because she may still have been conscious. well, first of all, it's obvious that there was no higher function, looking at her brain activity. yes, she was able to track things with her eyes, make some noises, and smile at times, but as excel pointed out, any cluster of cells can do that. but my point is that it would have been a thousand times more cruel to keep someone alive who couldn't communicate or respond. imagine being completely lucid, and completely alone in the world at the same time. i'd rather be a vegetable and be kept alive than be conscious, in that physical state. i don't believe in any sort of religion or higher being, but i hope she's finally at peace. same with the pope, once he kicks the bucket once and for all. it must be truly frightening for him to know that his health is failing and to watch himself deteriorating. i hope he goes relatively peacefully as well.

edit: looks like the pope did in fact go peacefully

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:46 pm    Post subject:

I'm agree. I wish my family and my love wouldn't let me live like this during all this time. It only keep hurting the people who love you.

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