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Excel Zero
Suna-Chan's Brother/Mod of Randomness
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 Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:20 pm Post subject: |
I am going to try to stay civil but if I start to get out of hand I will cut it off
So first things first
| Graillik Tur wrote: | | No we fight for different reasons. |
You said earlier you fight for the countries freedom right? So do I
| Graillik Tur wrote: | | I see what your getting at, but your dedication is not the same as the PJ. The PJ is willing to give up everything. |
See right here, that is completely wrong. You have no idea what I give up everyday. When I go in to check on the weapons, I put my life on the line everytime. I strap up a gun, a vest, and a helmet and pray everyday that some terrorist or radical doesn't decide to try to take over my structure because I know that if they do, I will die. Regardless of outcome, I will die. People fool themselves into thinking that if you're not in the hot zone, you're not in danger. The fact is, that if a terrorist tries to take my weapon, I am the last stand between the weapon and the hijacker. Shortly after I phone in the dilemma, the cops will ride down to the area and shoot every single thing that moves, including me. So anyone who says I haven't put my life on the line is wrong.
| Graillik Tur wrote: | | I'm not saying your any less dedicated to the job you do, I'm saying the dedication is not as focused for you |
This I just don't understand. How is the dedication any different if a PJ does everything possible to save a fallen comrade then if I do everything possible to save a weapon that could destroy a city. Again it comes back to what I said earlier, the dedication is just the same, but the job is different.
| Graillik Tur wrote: | | Understand I"m not trying to detract from what you do. You hold some of the most destructive items in your hands. If it weren't for you, we could deffinently be in trouble. But again, the PJ is willing to sacrifice everything, in an instant, to get his job done |
Again, refer to the above statement. I know at any moment my life could end.
| Graillik Tur wrote: | | You said that if you were asked to do that, you wouldn't. That you are more tied to your obligations as a husband than as a soldier. |
I never once said that I wouldn't give up my life if I had to. What I said was
If I had to put my married or personal life on hold , there would be no airman here. So no, my personal life has never come to a hault or even close to a hold in my three years. And if they ever asked me to be like that then I would be leaving here in a heart beat...and I know alot of people that would be coming with me.
I blame myself for not clarifying here. What I meant was, if I were asked to completely give up my married or personal life, I wouldn't be all there...mentally speaking. And my last sentence was just my explination that if the Air Force truely didn't want me to have that personal life, I wouldn't have one. They would deny me a marriage, hobbies, and so forth. How could anyone be expected to function properly if they don't have those things as part of their life
| Graillik Tur wrote: | | Just please understand that your kind of dedication is not the same as the PJ, Soldier, Seal, Pilot. They are willing to kill or be killed every time they step out. That is the difference |
Again, no difference here. But I won't waste our time by restating what I said in the first few sentences
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Graillik Tur
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:43 pm Post subject: |
See by clarifying that one statement you helped the conversation a lot. And I answer with this. If you do give up all those things, everything you hold dear to ensure what you know is dear for someone else, that is the greatest sacrifice.
I'm gonna quote the bible, so take it as you will.
"The greatest gift a man can give another is to lay is life down for him."
This doesn't mean die for him, this means surrender his will to the other. Your life, being, spirit, idividuality, uniqueness, is your gift from god. If you give this up to something else, say god, then your are giving the greatest gift you can.
It's a hard gift to give, but it is the highest. And there are people that do it all the time. Dedicate themselves to the cause completely even though they might be happier if they took a little personal time.
Also, I understand you put your life on the line as it were. I know the terrorists could try and come and get the weapon. But like you said, your the 'last' stand. There are several precautions before they should ever get to you. PJs are the 'first' stand. They know that the odds are someone is going to die, and it's gonna be one of them. Your odds are minimal. Like you said, your a support member, just like me. Hopefully I will be able to rectify that before my second enlistment, or atleast make air crew.
My point is this, and it is simple mathematics. The more you give up, the more dedicated you are. That's in anything. The more you put yourself in danger, the more dedicated you are. That is again, the same with anything.
I'm not saying I'm Joe Kill All over here. But I put my life on the line everyday the same as you. Don't you think the terrorists know this is were 'all' linguists for the nation are trained. All of them. Not a single linguist skips the 50+ weeks of training here. No branch, no language, land, sea or air, they all come through here. A nuclear missle is a great weapon but hard to steal. An open Army base right near a large mass of open ocean. Not exactly the most well defended target.
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Excel Zero
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:24 pm Post subject: |
To be honest with you...the weapon
And just so that I may clarify, the PJ's are not the first stand if a weapon is in danger and there are not as many precautions as you may think. We have things in place but I know everyone of them. There are not many 'stands' between them and I as some people think.
But I believe we've reached the best we can here so I think I am done unless you have something else. Otherwise....
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