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Akanari
Owns your reality
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 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject: |
Mmm.
That whole conversation reminds me of the book "Memnoch the Devil" by Anne Rice. The book doesn't have the exact ideas illustrated here, but it's pretty close.
Simply mind-boggling...and yet...it could be the truth. I personally would like to entertain this idea more that anything else, because then, I have something to look forward to. |
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reaper
I miss you Shar
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| Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
All I have to say about this is, if there is a god per say, it wouldn't waste its time on a train with an athiest lol |
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Tobias
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:03 am Post subject: |
| reaper wrote: | | All I have to say about this is, if there is a god per say, it wouldn't waste its time on a train with an athiest lol |
Hey, He has his strange ways. It's all we can believe. |
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Sloan
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:47 am Post subject: |
I think it was a smart idea, though... talking to an atheist. Cuz just like he said if he made himself known to a non-atheist then chances are they will not talk back with an open mind. Not saying non-atheists are close-minded, just that from personal experience I have more intelligent conversations with people who don't let religion tell them the answers to all their questions and I find more of the answers i'm looking for that way. |
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Silver Adept
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| Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:20 am Post subject: |
Some of the smartest scientific men in our world were also men of faith. I don't know how Einstein or Netwon would have reacted to a conversation with God, although I suspect many of them saw their scientific work as such.
Speaking with an atheist doesn't guarantee that God would have found a person with the right frame of mind to understand his message, either. There are plenty of people who are vehemently atheist but wouldn't understand half of what was being said there. Or they'd get hung up on the idea that this being was claiming to be God and go nowhere, in the same vein that a lot of peoples of faith would be so very fanboy over God talking to them that they'd be inaccurate scribers. Get my drift?
That said, what is actually said in the piece sounds like a reasonable argument, coming from a being that asks us to accept the premise that he is, indeed, God. It solves the problem of evil quite well - we did it all ourselves. At the same time, all the good stuff we did, too. You take the bad with the good. I would like to think we're close to the second stage of humanity and that we can achieve it in my lifetime. However, I wonder whether the achieval of the second stage will produce World War III, or at least another Cuban Missile Crisis.
Even so, it's time we started striving for the second stage in earnest. After all, God's waiting. |
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Godwyn
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:53 am Post subject: |
| Silver Adept wrote: |
Speaking with an atheist doesn't guarantee that God would have found a person with the right frame of mind to understand his message, either. There are plenty of people who are vehemently atheist but wouldn't understand half of what was being said there. Or they'd get hung up on the idea that this being was claiming to be God and go nowhere, in the same vein that a lot of peoples of faith would be so very fanboy over God talking to them that they'd be inaccurate scribers. Get my drift? |
If we accept the premise that it is God, then it is not the speaking with an atheist that gauruntees someone in the right frame of mind, it is that God can easily pick someone in the right frame of mind, and the one picked happens to be an atheist.
I really have no problems with a God like that, I really rather like him. The only thing I disagree with, which was even mentioned in it, is God viewing us as ants, and the statement that we can't talk to ants. Maybe it is just me, but I like to try and help creatures when I can, whether I understand them or not, and if I had the capability to comprehend the entirety of an anthill, and understand them, I would care about what happens to them. I may still choose not to alter whatever may affect them, but I would care. |
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Silver Adept
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:05 am Post subject: |
Could be the best way to care for them and help them would be to leave them to their own devices. That seems to be the tack being tacken by the writer. |
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