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Satine Evil Onigiri

Age: 37 Gender:  Joined: 29 Sep 2004 |
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: |
Frankly, I think your average person has no need for a handgun/automatic rifle/assault weapon/etc simply because your average person has no need to kill somebody. Self-defense is a legitimate cause, but did you know that if you carry a weapon for self-defense and are attacked, there is a large chance of your attacker taking your weapon and attacking you with it?
I think we need better and stricter regulation of who can possess a weapon. Some stores/dealers are already very careful about who they sell to, but some are not. If I go to my local sporting goods store, I can't even ask to view a handgun until I'm 21, and they are very good about checking ID.
I carry pepper spray in my bag because 1) I am female and 2) I'm in downtown Atlanta every day from 9 AM to at least 2 PM, some days until the evening and occasionally until 9 or 10 PM. I ride public transportation. There have been several incidents where I have felt uncomfortable or threatened by somebody on the street or on the train. Pepper spray is going to disable my attacker long enough for me to run away and (hopefully) contact the police. And it's pretty hard to accidentally spray somebody or yourself with pepper spray (though Excel will be the first one to tell you that it's possible! ). I cannot use my pepper spray unless I'm holding it a certain way and have my thumb under the safety latch, but it's simple enough to use quickly in an emergency. And I feel much more comfortable knowing that I have a way to temporarily disable an attacker so I can get away. |
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Excel Zero Suna-Chan's Brother/Mod of Randomness

Gender:  Joined: 22 Oct 2003 |
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:27 pm Post subject: |
Satine wrote: |
Pepper spray is going to disable my attacker long enough for me to run away and (hopefully) contact the police. And it's pretty hard to accidentally spray somebody or yourself with pepper spray (though Excel will be the first one to tell you that it's possible! ). |
That is low....ever so low....:-p
Now talking about Pepper Spray...
Good idea to have but there are some precautions.
1. Make sure you have a good pepper spray. Should be at the maximum amount of pepper, Oleoresin Capsicum, Alphachoroacetaphenone, or Orthochlorobenzalmalonitrile. The maximum legal amount is 10%
2. Make sure you do a test spray. Just once however as most cans carry 10 sprays. The reason you should test is for functionality and so you know how to use it. DO THIS OUTSIDE AND AWAY FROM WIND!!!
3. It sounds dumb, but practice drawing it from wherever it's stored once in a while
4. Find a spray with UV dye in it. The assailant will be painted with an invisible dye to help cops find him.
Good idea though Satine, but remember one thing, if a person does get sprayed and is in a manic state, it usually doesn't work. A person on most drugs have the same lack of effect.
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kei 巡る 時 屁と 輝き 進もう

Gender:  Joined: 18 Oct 2004 |
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject: |
Excel Zero wrote: | Satine wrote: |
Pepper spray is going to disable my attacker long enough for me to run away and (hopefully) contact the police. And it's pretty hard to accidentally spray somebody or yourself with pepper spray (though Excel will be the first one to tell you that it's possible! ). |
That is low....ever so low....:-p
Now talking about Pepper Spray...
Good idea to have but there are some precautions.
1. Make sure you have a good pepper spray. Should be at the maximum amount of pepper, Oleoresin Capsicum, Alphachoroacetaphenone, or Orthochlorobenzalmalonitrile. The maximum legal amount is 10%
2. Make sure you do a test spray. Just once however as most cans carry 10 sprays. The reason you should test is for functionality and so you know how to use it. DO THIS OUTSIDE AND AWAY FROM WIND!!!
3. It sounds dumb, but practice drawing it from wherever it's stored once in a while
4. Find a spray with UV dye in it. The assailant will be painted with an invisible dye to help cops find him.
Good idea though Satine, but remember one thing, if a person does get sprayed and is in a manic state, it usually doesn't work. A person on most drugs have the same lack of effect.
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Excel Zero Suna-Chan's Brother/Mod of Randomness

Gender:  Joined: 22 Oct 2003 |
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
I used to be a medic in the city of Chicago....
nuff said
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Faye Luna Sierra

Age: 42 Gender:  Joined: 28 Apr 2004 |
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject: |
Spraying yourself in the face with it will do that too.
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Satine Evil Onigiri

Age: 37 Gender:  Joined: 29 Sep 2004 |
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:30 pm Post subject: |
And you called my comment low...... *shakes head*
FYI, the spray I have is 10% oleoresin capsicum with UV dye. I have yet to do a test spray because I've been really busy and it's been too damn windy. But I will do it soon. And I keep in in an outside pocket of my bag, very easily accessible. There's some crazy people downtown... |
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Excel Zero Suna-Chan's Brother/Mod of Randomness

Gender:  Joined: 22 Oct 2003 |
Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:31 am Post subject: |
Way to be Satine
Oh yeah...I hate Faye now :-p
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kei 巡る 時 屁と 輝き 進もう

Gender:  Joined: 18 Oct 2004 |
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:28 am Post subject: |
Me and Kisin sensei, got into a discussion on the subject of it's debates and what it intails earlier today. And we came up with this.
We both agreed
hand guns or any gun, is a cowardly move, it's like saying "I'm going to kill you from a distance because i'm to afraid to face you." Guns are the cowards way, I'd rather use my hands or a sword any day. Live by the sword, die by the sword. The fact that most people today use guns, sickens me to my stomach, it shows there's a whole alot more cowards out there.
If a person is going to shoot you, or use a gun, it's just showing how pathethic and weak they are. If you can't confront your problems, face to face. Then it's pretty much pointless to do anything or to use a gun, because it's just showing how afraid you are.
I think I know what some of you are thinking right now, "but guns are the only thing today people know how to use. Not many people can swing a sword correctly." Well that is true, not many people do. A gun is a tool, but a cowardy one. If you can't face your problems with out a gun, then you shouldn't try to make anything of your problem. Though they may show power and give you a secure feeling of safelty. They are still pointless. Atleast to me..
As for becoming a killer with your bear hands, it doesn't take years to do, all you have to do is shove upwards to the nose, and it's done, or a quick solid punch to the temple. just as easy.
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Excel Zero Suna-Chan's Brother/Mod of Randomness

Gender:  Joined: 22 Oct 2003 |
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:14 am Post subject: |
Kei wrote: |
hand guns or any gun, is a cowardly move, it's like saying "I'm going to kill you from a distance because i'm to afraid to face you." Guns are the cowards way, I'd rather use my hands or a sword any day. Live by the sword, die by the sword. The fact that most people today use guns, sickens me to my stomach, it shows there's a whole alot more cowards out there. |
As a martial arts instructor myself I think that comment is a bit...i dunno...you say using guns are sick and cowardly and you'd rather use hands or a sword. I actually have to go with Reaper for a moment on this one and say guns were meant to kill just as swords were. They both have just one reason, to kill. As far as you saying that you'd rather use your hands or a sword any day...I think it's cowardly for someone to fight without using their words first.
Quote: | If you can't face your problems with out a gun, then you shouldn't try to make anything of your problem. |
If you can't face your problems without your hands or a sword, then you shouldn't try to make anything of your problem either.
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As for becoming a killer with your bear hands, it doesn't take years to do, all you have to do is shove upwards to the nose, and it's done, or a quick solid punch to the temple. just as easy.
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We said an efficient killer takes years. You can tell a woman to shove a man's nose up but not everyone can do it but it does take some force and skill. Not every person can walk off a street, see that a few times, and be able to make that move properly. Besides, one of the biggest tenets of the self defense methods is practice. Any MA instructor should know that the scariest thing in a class is a person who knows some moves and has no control. That is my opinions.
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kei 巡る 時 屁と 輝き 進もう

Gender:  Joined: 18 Oct 2004 |
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:09 am Post subject: |
Quote: | If you can't face your problems without your hands or a sword, then you shouldn't try to make anything of your problem either. |
This is very true, all points of violence are unneccisary and meaningless, but we all know that not everyone is going to handle their situations with discussion, violence is never the answer, and in very little or no cases at all is it justifide. It is sometimes understandable, but hardly ever justifiable.
Guns, swords, and knives are tools, they can all harm a person, but they shouldn't be used unless an occasion arises, that absolutely requires you to. If a person takes a stab at you first then you can defend yourself, in these cases it is understandable, but that dosen't ever make it right.
But yes excel I agree with you, on that.
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