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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject:

Josh-- actually, that's not entirely true. A lot of the time these days it doesn't matter -what- you have a degree in, as long as you have a degree. Admittedly, Lawyers and Doctors usually have to have specific types of degrees, and there are a few others that do, but a lot of jobs don't care as much about the specific major you had as they do about the fact that you made it through school.

I know my degree would be completely useless if that weren't the case, given I'm an English major who doesn't want to teach.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject:

My calculus teacher was an english major and my english teacher senior year was a law major...

o.O

So yeah, the type of degree doesn't really matter. A lot of it comes down to certifications now anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:46 am    Post subject:

Philosophy was always one of my favorite classes when I was doing my gen ed stuff. But like they said school has become more of a place to build your resume than build your mind.

It still matters what you get your degree in as well, not as much as it used to but still. If there are two equally capable aplicants and one has a degree in a subject related to the job, and one has a degree in philosophy 9 times out of 10 it won't go to the philosophy major.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:01 pm    Post subject:

I remember being told straight out that i should have been a philosophy major by my philosophy professor. Pulling As in subjects regarding presocratics, plato, christian philosophers and the like, i became interested in it.

I ultimately decided not to major in it. But i did take more classes on it. Philosophy is a strange thing that rewards those who delve into it. I know one of the reasons why I'm as good as i am in writing is that i delve into my writing, get into it, fascinated with it, and argue against it. Philosophy does this to me to - makes me argue; makes me think; makes me want to try.

Unfortunately, as a teacher of mine put it once, College is one of the only investments where people are trying to get as little as they can for their money. They don't want to learn about philosophy, just what they want to do in their lives. When writing a resume, while having a degree is good, listing concentrations in classes such as accounting, marketing, journalism, bio-technology is very powerful. For me, it tends to be my creative writing strengths and my skill with screen-writing, filming and editing.

I have to agree with Josh on this one: The almighty dollar seems to me to be the biggest factor in the college experience. People want to just get philosophy done with and get on with it. Furthermore, people never want to sit through a class where they are REQUIRED to think...especially in gut classes like required philosophy courses. Students in this situation want to just recieve material, regurgitate it, get a good grade and add it to their GPA. I was the exception: I pulled off my good grade due to my enjoyment and involvement in Philosophy.

As far as the different worlds of philosophy, I'll agree with Ming on the fact that Both Greek philosophy and eastern philosophy are very intriguing. As well, european philosophers, much like Kant, are quite difficult to understand. Not saying that they're doing it primarily due to hubris, but they come off as arrogant in a way due to their english and the fact that some of their words don't fall into any known dictionary. I remember taking a class on ethics, and half of the class was dedicated to "The groundwork for the Metaphysics of Morals" by Immanual Kant, and by the end of each reading we had to do for class, i was ready to cry.
Like a baby.

But in all, to add my idea of my favorite: It would be socratic philosophy. The idea that the smartest man in the world is the man who knows that he knows nothing. That indeed can be applied to practically everyone in the world at some point or another. Also, the Republic is astounding in my eyes for the fact that it clearly hits (in my humble opinion) why we can't have a perfect government, or why we have a government reliant on trade to begin with. Furthermore, one can identify with the several forms of governments that rule that we have possibly moved from the aristocracy to the tyrocracy, moving from argumentative debate into aggressive debate and war.

Anywho, I think I'm done now.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject:

ScrumYummy wrote:
I'm not in philosophy yet, but Max is right now. He says his professor is one of the good ones Very Happy

Me personally, I'm very interested in existentialism and existential phenomenology. I am also a buddho-taoist. So if anybody feels like discussing these topics, I'm all in =)

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In my experience, the Greek guys were all fine. It was the European guys who really make things difficult to understand. I took a class on Kant once, and I'm surprised that I managed a good grade because I had no idea what was going on for most of the class. The old European guys use a language in their writing that further propagates this idea of elitism. They know they're smart, and they seem to go every bit out of their way to make you feel inferior, as the people that they are writing to are not you and me, but their peers. But, like everything else in philosophy, that's just my opinion.


I don't think they did it to feel elite. Most of what they're talking about is really hard to explain, so it's almost like they had to make up words just to get their ideas out XD!

Ming wrote:

My most rewarding experiences in philosophy came when I made the transition from Western philosophy to Eastern philosophy. The difference in the material is really like black and white, and if you have trouble with European and Greek philosophy, I would highly suggest checking out Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Hinduism, and the like. Where Western philosophy is very cold and scientific, Eastern philosophy is very poetic and metaphoric.


I totally agree. I feel something of a warmth from eastern philosophy, particularly Buddhism. I try my best to be like the Buddha XD It makes life more fulfilling =)


You should read the Bhagavad Gita. It's like buddhism with mythology mixed in.

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