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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 9:26 pm    Post subject:

Sperrit wrote:
Well, I'd hate to speak for everyone, but I'm sure that everyone would agree that we all value each other's opinions around here and it's always good to hear another Otaku's opinion, no matter what it is. That isn't to say that we won't discuss it with you, or even argue with you, but we're always glad to hear it. And, yes, I'm sure that the government has a certain amount of blame to be given to them in this incident, but I think that it's a lot of combined factors that cause something like this to happen, and that's what really gets a lot of people, because they want it to be simple and easy, one bad guy one cause, but it's never really that easy and it frustrates people that there isn't always a clear cut cause that they can attack. Ah, the complexities of our society.

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You're speaking for me right now Sperrit, I couldn't agree more.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 8:23 am    Post subject:

Man, that Machall comic couldn't fall more on the topic then that (well, I could have but ...)

http://www.machall.com/index.php?strip_id=155


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 8:32 am    Post subject:

Angel Demon

Exactly, we had GI-JOE, but what the hell do kids now have to learn from? It ain't going to be Sponge Bob, though that show may suprise me still,

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 9:02 am    Post subject:

This topic is all over but yet, still on topic, it's amazing how one thing leads to another and circles back again.

But I agree. Although I love Japanese animation whole heartedly, I can help but feel totally pissed while watching Saturday morning cartoons/Early morning (before school) cartoons. I saw, what looks to be another "cut and paste"' kids show with the cool looking kids and journeys and all that but with TOPS?! I don't mean to harsh on anyone's terirtory but have we seriously gotten to such an imagination breakdown where we must recycle the whole 'group of kids doing battle with (fill in the blank with any type of card/ball/top/anything that we can market and sell product)?

Honestly, I hated breaking from my cartoons to commercials when I was younger. Albeit they always targeted toys and such that weren't related and may have my interest. You knew they always showed the toy commercials during the mornings of course when kids would most likely be subject to being the prime viewing market.

But now. Now. You want to know what kind of commercials I saw during this show? An old folks home. Can you believe it?

Like little Johnny is going to privvy to a conversation between his parents about where to house old senile gramma. (note: not all grammas are old nor senile but just an embellishment) Little Johnny is going to offer his two cents and tell them to send her off to Silver Springs Assisted Living! Yeah right.

The reason why they toss these commercials in there you might ask? It's because the cartoons prove enough of a 30 minute commercial that they don't have to worry about selling it more at commercial breaks.

So we may laugh at Mac Hall, but ya know, he pegs it. And even watching bits of educational tv all starts to look the same as just one large marketing ploy for kids to ask their parents for more things. Because in actuality, a lot of parents rely on television when they can't be there to influence their children. And a some of those parents don't influence their children at all and the kids learn everything from friends and tv.

And then some people want to screw with an impressionable kid and feed him this crap that he should be killing people. Well, 17 year old kid or not, I think one of the first things we learn in life is to not kill. So this "kid" has no sympathy from me.

Something I feel to be true.

If you are doing something that you feel you have to hide or have even one iota of a notion is incorrect and wrong or illegal then maybe you should rethink your actions because your instincts are right.

And if the case is where they feel they have done no wrong? Well then they are straight up cold blooded killers and should be wiped from the gene pool.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:39 am    Post subject:

Angel Demon

My family has a very similar saying, which I'm sure came from somewhere else, so if you know please tell me so I can give the originators:

There's never enough chlorine in the gene pool

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:49 am    Post subject:

Reverend wrote:
Angel Demon

My family has a very similar saying, which I'm sure came from somewhere else, so if you know please tell me so I can give the originators:

There's never enough chlorine in the gene pool

Laughing

never heard that one, but I like it. I may have to use that some day!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 12:59 pm    Post subject:

Angel Demon

I hope we've all heard of The Darwin Awards, because that site alone give me hope for the human race.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 3:23 pm    Post subject:

Oh my god yeah.

It only gives me the g reat joy to know that some of those idiots won't be passing along their stupid gene.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2002 5:15 pm    Post subject:

First: Doot, I quite agree about what you are saying about televison. It has gotten extremely bad over the years, degenerating into, like you said, 30 minute commercials. Example: Yu Gi Ho. It was a card game that probably didn't sell that much, so they made a TV show. Now? It's one of most popular card games out there. Spounge Bob. There's so much spounge bob merchandise out there it disturbs me. Same with the Power Puff Girls. I'm not saying that ours was an idilic age for TV. I mean, come on, you can't tell me that the GI Joe show didn't sell toys. Same with Masters of the Universe, and most others. However, like the guy in Mac Hall said, there were messages in those shows, messages about morals and right and wrong, and at the very least the heros would always fight evil and try to right wrongs and do good. What about now? I can't really think about a single American show that has the heros fighting wrong and evil. Have we lost our conception on what makes right in our society? Have we somehow come to the idea that it's okay to let bad things happen while we watch, and that it's even FUNNY? These kinds of thoughts scare me.

Second: The Darwin Awards. I have a lot of mixed feelings about those. On the one hand there's a part of me that wants to laugh at some of the stupid things that people do that end up getting them killed. It's not like there's no humor in it. But there's another part of me that wants to be disgusted and horrified by these stories. How could be people grow up to be so disregardant of forethought, simple analysis of cause and effect? And these aren't kids doing this stuff, these are adults too, adults that have grown up in the same culture that we have, and should KNOW better. I mean, come on, I don't think that there's a single person on this board that would sit in front of a microwave TV transmitter (after being warned SEVERAL times) during the biggest TV event, the Super Bowl. He got FRIED. The guy that came in to relieve him thought he was making beef jerky! And in a way that is humorous, for humor often arises out of buffoonery that results in physical harm. But these are real people, and I wonder about the sources of such actions. It worries me. These people DON'T belong in the gene pool. That's the thing. They don't belong in it yet they keep cropping up. I hope that one day we might be able to produce and entire generation of people who would know NOT to do some of the stuff that these guys are doing.

Well, that just made a serious topic even more serious. If you want to aleiviate the mood I suggest going to the Mad Libs topic in Whatever. Get a good clean laugh. It's one of life's greatest, and simplest joys. Enjoy it.

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