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Razer
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 9:29 am    Post subject:

Well actually I see lots of PO (including Vets) who do the old "dodge/block/catch the sword in the teeth" stuff where a fight goes 2-3 pages without anyone getting more than an angry look. That's what has been keeping me from joining any. Cobbi started a good one but let it die for some reason.

(Razer gives Cobbi a very dirty look before poking him twice)

With noone actually getting hurt to any extent then I just don't see the point in RPing.


Just my 2 cents.

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Shurikane
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 11:29 am    Post subject:

I think the key to making a good RP is either to have everyone control everyone else; so it's like switching authors like in the Running Saga.

Or, we arrange the story so that it leaves as much freedom as possible to each character, so that the character can describe his own actions without describing anyone else's. The problem lies within the fights. When I wrote TFFOMP with my buddies, it was mostly talk and thoughts. Now, if I throw a punch at BWS-1, I'll HAVE to wait for him to respond in some way. Another prob is how and when to decide of blocking and allowing hits. By experience, it's next to impossible to be fair on a fight all the way.

What we could do is program a simple algorithm of sorts. A bit like the Imps at Gamewyrd, we have a few basic stats from 1 to 10 and do the fights from there.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 12:51 pm    Post subject:

hmmm...u bring up a point Shuri.

And razer. check out the fight that me and Sperrit are having on the battle royal forums (Tag team matchup)

I didnt dodge the big pointy rock...i took it to the gut Very Happy




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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 2:03 pm    Post subject:

I usually take the hits, but one thing about the character is that he doesn't take hits well, so instead he focuses on dodging. Having a way of balancing the character like that would help a lot. Maybe have fifty points to distribute to ten different stats, and you RP accordingly. But then, that takes freedom away from character development. There is no way to make someone RP correctly-- only ways to make sure that they don't overstep their boundaries and make their character like some kind of Godly person who can destroy everyone in one fell swoop™!

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 2:32 pm    Post subject:

To start with tho, I would be against any outside control over an RPer. It would have to be a self-control aspect that rules. Of course leaving everyone to police themselves is like letting the inmates run the asylum but...

I won't name names either but here's an example of what I've sen in an actual RP here


(start of post)
Iceman fires a deadly hail of ice shards leaving Wolverine with no possible way of escaping!

"Here's to you, teach!
(end of post)

(start of post)
Wolverine leaps with incredible speed just barely dodging the stream. He then slashes his claw into the ceiling, ripping out a huge chunk of granite, which he hurls at Iceman who stands stunned.
(end of post)

(start of post)
Iceman snaps back just in the nick of time to erect a wall of crystal, leaving the stone to shatter helplessly. He then creates and drops a snowball the size of Manhattan on Wolverine
(end of post)

(start of post)
Wolvie ducks under a grocery store awning which deflects the snowball. Staring from underneath the canvas, he launches himself claws first at Iceman's heart.
(end of post)

(start of post)
Iceman drops to the ground while encasing himself in ice. Wolvie's claws scrape harmlessly against the ice instead of Iceman's flesh.
(end of post)

yada, yada, yada. Now of course I do see some GOOD battles where people take the punch to the jaw or whatever but it's few and far between. However I think it's the fault of the act. Simply stated, since it's a fight, no one wants to lose.
I'd love to get a good story going tho.

(Remembers Digital Snow and pokes Cobbi again)

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 3:16 pm    Post subject:

Aaack, so you're the one that brought me down to 84 hp!!

As an act of revenge, I'll see what I can do about reviving the Digital Snow RP.

I've been RPing for about 6 years online, but I just havn't done much on PO due to bein' busy, not checking as much as I'd like, or somthing around there. I'm primarily used to real-time RPing on MUCKs and iRC and the like, so when multiple people are involved in a posting environment, it's really easy for one person to get left behind and stuck for what to do. However in real-time RPing, powergaming is still a big no-no, and I've actually taught some basic dos and don'ts of RPing on a MUCK I used to frequent. I'd be game for giving any lil tutorials. But having a forum won't work I don't think, as it needs an immediate response to let someone know if what they're doin' is cool or not so cool. Perhaps a referral system that points people to an AiM name? I'm not entirely sure, but yeah.. I'll help out if need be. My two gil.

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 12:26 am    Post subject:

Well I can't take all the credit for bringing you to 84 (I never did more than 2pts per poke) but if it got you to restart DS then maybe I should have slit your wrists weeks ago. LOL

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 1:43 pm    Post subject:

wrist slitting would definitely have gotten cobbi's attention Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 7:24 pm    Post subject:

I think that, a good way to make battles interesting for the readers would be to make sure that, both fighters agree to tell each other will be the winner of the fight they are about to do. Only it's a secret, they don't tell anyone and pretend to fight as hard as they can. They can decide by, I don't know, flipping head or tail or something


But honostly, as long as I will be aware that TFFOMP remains an unfinished work, I won't be capable of starting anything else, I'm stuck on that story really and that prooves one thing, I suck at RPing, if I'd be good at it, I could easely shift from character to an other and create various stories, but I can't.

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2003 9:09 pm    Post subject:

B, there's one problem with that-- it's demoralizing to an RPer to know he's going to lose, yet try his hardest anyway. It's ten times more fun to do it on your own, a good RPer against a good RPer. I'm not saying I'm a great RPer or anything, but hell-- at least I get hit sometimes.

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