Conflict. Rated R for language.

[Therin]

Dude, she might be living with me for awhile.
What!? WHY!?
Because I offered to take her in to keep her away from her mom.
Right. WHY!?
Because she's not happy there.
Uhuh...And why is that again?
Because her mom's a bitch.
'Splain.
Ok, well her mom actually hired a private detective to spy on her and her boyfriend.
...the boyfriend who is conspicuously not you. Continue?
Well, the detective followed her when she snuck out one night.
And caught her...doing what?
Having sex.
Tell me again. How old is the boyfriend?
18
And she's 17, right?
15.
*smacks forehead* And...what, exactly, is she doing dating an 18-year-old guy?
She loves him.
Uhuh...Weren't you telling me the other day how much of a prick he is?
...Yeah...
So, why does she love him?
She thinks she can change him.
*smack* AND YOU BELIEVE THAT!?
No! But she's happy...Anyway, her mom's suing this guy for statutory.
Good. Fucker deserves it.
And I'm going to try to help him.
WHY!?
Because she loves him.
Yeah, no she doesn't.
Yes she does.
She does not. You know why? Because she's fifteen, and because he's not the right guy for her, and anyone with two brain cells to put together can see that.
But I want her to be happy.
That won't make her happy.
Yes it will.
No, it'll make her seem happy.
Fuck you. So now her mom's grounded her from seeing anyone and she can't even talk to anyone except me on the phone.
Well that's good. She can talk to you at least.
Yeah, but she can't talk to anyone else.
So? Given the choice, she chose you! Doesn't this make you at all happy?
Yes, but I want her to be happy, and she's not.
...So you're going to help her run away from her parents.
...
Now, tell me, how do you expect that to make her happy?
Cuz her mom won't be able to bitch and run her life anymore.
SHE'S FIFTEEN! THAT'S WHAT HER MOM IS THERE FOR!!
But she's doing it the wrong way!
And who are you to say that? If you ask me, she's doing exactly the right thing. The asshole deserves jail, and everything that might be in store for him, and she needs to be confined so that she learns not to go behind her parents' backs.
But...dude, she's crying on the phone!
...Duh! Wouldn't you, in the same position!?
Yes. And then I'd ask friends to get me out of the house.
Right. You'd willingly put your friends in danger for your perception of your own happiness. She's fucking fifteen! God dammit, man, can't you see what you're getting yourself into!?
What am I getting myself into, then? Worst case, her mom calls and comes by to pick her up again.
No. Worst case, her mom has no idea where she is, calls the cops, who then find you and arrest you for fucking kidnapping.
Then I'll plead my case in court.
No. God dammit, NO!
Why not?
Because it's not worth it!
Fuck you. It is to me.
No, you're not seeing, here!
What is there to see? I love her. I'd do anything to make her happy!
Fine. All well and good, great, happily ever after. But you're doing it the wrong way.
What am I supposed to do, then!?
She's trying to run away. Do you know why?
Because her mom's a bitch
No. Because it's easier than confronting her mother. She's going somewhere where she doesn't have to deal with her mom anymore, because she doesn't want to. All this crap you put up with for her, it won't stop until she confronts her mother, and they work out their issues with eachother. [/i]That's[/i] what you have to do. Force her to confront her mother, provide no other way out of this situation than that, because, though it seems to her like running to you is an easier way out, in reality, that is the [/i]only[/i] way out.
But she'll get hurt!
Correct. But she'll be the better for it.
How do you know!?
I don't. But it's better than running away to you any time something goes wrong, which is what she'll do if you let her.
Fuck you. I'm going to let her stay with me.
Fine. 'S up to you. I'm not speaking to you again until she's gone from your house, back with her mother. Bye.
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God dammit. I wish I could help...Why won't he just listen? I mean, true love is all well and good, but it's worthless if you're stupid about it! You can't just try not to make her cry. You have to help her fix what's wrong. If you have to, you must make her fix what's wrong. Because if she runs away, it'll only get worse. I know that all too well...I got my stepbrother kicked out of the house because he helped me run away. It was his decision, but I still feel the blame...
*sigh* I know I don't really know much, but in this, I am the voice of experience. I wish there was some way to make him listen. Having to watch him do this hurts more than he'll ever know...

[Faye]

I know how you feel General. I have a couple of friends who refuse to listen to reason at times. One of which I have been friends with for almost 8 years now. I am an only child and this guy is the closest thing I had to a brother all through highschool. He would ask me for advice and I would give it to him.... then he would completely ignore it. And he would come back to me later and say "You were right, I should have listened to you." That is not what I wanted to hear... that is not what any friend wants to hear. I wanted him to listen to me in the first place and not put him self in the position that he was in.

The bottom line is, you cant force anyone to listen to you. All you can do is tell them what you think and hope that they take your advice to heart. But the worst part about this is.... for the most part, especially when "love" is involved, they wont listen at all. The only thing I can tell you is let him make his mistakes, because to be perfectly honest that is really the only way anyone ever learns. I hated to see my friend hurt like he was, but I knew that I had done all I could do short of causing him physical harm.

It is very frusterating knowing that someone so close to you is in pain and you not being able to do anything about it. If it makes any difference I think you acted accordingly and the advice you gave him was very appropriate. I wish you and your friend luck. I hope everything turns out okay.

[Azurel]

In my defense, the above conversation was edited...a lot. In fact, I'm dissapointed that you would even put that up where you can only quote me on about one or two of those sentences. You just put up what you thought was going on. Granted some of it is true, other parts are just wrong. "Cuz her mom won't be a bitch and run her life anymore" Wtf dude? She's 15, lives with her mom and a stepdad that doesn't give a shit about her. Of course her mom needs to run her life to a point, she couldn't survive without it. If you're going to go bitch and complain about a situation, don't lie about it.

It's not like I didn't try. I tried telling her to stay home and talk to her mom, I spent a half an hour explaining this to her. We skipped class and went to the media center, just so we can talk without the P.I. knowing what we talked about. I am in love with her, but that's not what made me cave in and offered to let her stay with me. She was explaining it, collapsed into my arms and cried for 15 minutes straight. I was still explaining my side while she was crying. There was no way I was gonna get her to change her mind and stay home at that point. She was going to run away and walk the streets no matter what. The only sensible thing I could do AT THAT MOMENT was to offer to let her stay at my house. Not just because I love her, but because she would have still been able to go to school, go to work, talk to her mom. It would have lasted all of 2 days anyways, before her mom called my mom and we drove her back. I have no doubt in my mind that she would have tried to get a ride on the highway and I'd never see her again.

Now sure, for that day that I talked to you, I was almost sure that she would be spending the next few nights at my house. Instead, I opted to push the issue EVERY TIME I TALKED TO HER. You know how fucking hard that was? To see the girl you love and care for cry everytime you open your mouth when you could stop it in a second? I realize I'm a softie, you could get me to blow up a bank if you got a crying girl to ask me to do it. But this is her dude.

EDIT: on a side note: it worked. After days of talking through her tears, I got her to stay home. She has yet to have a talk with her mom, I'm working on that one.

"Having to watch him do this hurts more than he'll ever know..." Try telling your friend something that you know would never agree with and then find out that he went and told only his side of the story only assuming he knew what your side was.

[Therin]

There's a reason I put in in fanworks, dude.

If I thought it was completely truthful and accurate, I would have put it in the soap box, and asked for help. What you're seeing is as I saw it. No, it's not accurate. No, it's not word for word. I know that. It was simply meant to express my feelings on the matter.

And for what it's worth, I'm proud of you for what I now know you to have done.